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		<title>By: Karen Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 07:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t usually give negative reviews, and I hardly ever review at all, but the Brunny&#039;s WILL STEAL your shit from coat check...sometimes they will outright steal your coat if it is nice enough (ie. Canada Goose) and say that they are not liable because &quot;how do we know you checked in your coat?&quot; (when in fact it is mandatory).  Then if you are a tiny girl like me, they will get their giant fat asshole women employees to literally grab you on each end, one on the neck, one on your legs and stretch you out like a medieval torture chamber.  Then, they will literally drag you to the floor.  If you tell the cops what they did in detail (which I did), they will tell you they have the right to do that because it&#039;s their property.  This is not an isolated incident.  Ask 10 people who has been to the Brunny&#039;s and I&#039;d say at least one will tell you a story like this.  You have been WARNED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t usually give negative reviews, and I hardly ever review at all, but the Brunny&#8217;s WILL STEAL your shit from coat check&#8230;sometimes they will outright steal your coat if it is nice enough (ie. Canada Goose) and say that they are not liable because &#8220;how do we know you checked in your coat?&#8221; (when in fact it is mandatory).  Then if you are a tiny girl like me, they will get their giant fat asshole women employees to literally grab you on each end, one on the neck, one on your legs and stretch you out like a medieval torture chamber.  Then, they will literally drag you to the floor.  If you tell the cops what they did in detail (which I did), they will tell you they have the right to do that because it&#8217;s their property.  This is not an isolated incident.  Ask 10 people who has been to the Brunny&#8217;s and I&#8217;d say at least one will tell you a story like this.  You have been WARNED.
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		<title>By: Les</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cities shouldn&#039;t have noise lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cities shouldn&#8217;t have noise lol
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		<title>By: robi</title>
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		<dc:creator>robi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 01:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having gone to high school just a few blocks away from the Brunswick House, I had a bad impression of it from a relatively tender age. Some of the most impressively stupid behaviour I have seen related to public drunkenness spilled out of those doors. The one time I ever went to the Brunny was for my friend&#039;s 21st birthday. His friends decided he should have 21 drinks for his 21st. Not sure he made it to 21 but I do know I ended up babysitting him in the back alley after he got kicked out for not keeping his head off the table. It was more than 15 years ago, so different ownership but the same problems. Over-serving? Most certainly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having gone to high school just a few blocks away from the Brunswick House, I had a bad impression of it from a relatively tender age. Some of the most impressively stupid behaviour I have seen related to public drunkenness spilled out of those doors. The one time I ever went to the Brunny was for my friend&#8217;s 21st birthday. His friends decided he should have 21 drinks for his 21st. Not sure he made it to 21 but I do know I ended up babysitting him in the back alley after he got kicked out for not keeping his head off the table. It was more than 15 years ago, so different ownership but the same problems. Over-serving? Most certainly.
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		<title>By: alecto</title>
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		<dc:creator>alecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

If you think &quot;big city living&quot; is all about getting drunk and acting like a moron, you&#039;re very naive. Maybe you should go back to Waterloo, or go to Woodbridge yourself - I&#039;m sure there are plenty bars there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>If you think &#8220;big city living&#8221; is all about getting drunk and acting like a moron, you&#8217;re very naive. Maybe you should go back to Waterloo, or go to Woodbridge yourself &#8211; I&#8217;m sure there are plenty bars there too.
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		<title>By: alecto</title>
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		<dc:creator>alecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t students pack up and go party somewhere else instead? Why do students get to trump every other group in the area? There are tons of houses in &quot;the Annex&quot; therefore it&#039;s a residential area too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t students pack up and go party somewhere else instead? Why do students get to trump every other group in the area? There are tons of houses in &#8220;the Annex&#8221; therefore it&#8217;s a residential area too.
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		<title>By: Beacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Annex residents should not expect a &quot;strictly residential existence&quot;.  However, I disagree on a couple of your other points.  First, the Beaches is not a strictly residential area either.  It, just like the Annex, is vibrant , with pedestrian-filled streets and an active night life.  Quite frankly, any environmentally and socially-sustainable neighborhood will have the same characteristics.  We need to jettison the notion that anyone is entitled to a &quot;strictly residential&quot; existence.  Second, it is absurd to suggest that the stretch of Bloor Street in the vicinity of the Annex (or any area, for that matter) should be reserved exclusively for students.  The &quot;secret sauce&quot; that makes the Annex so great is that the many students in the area mix with folks of all age ranges, from seniors to thirty-somethings with children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Annex residents should not expect a &#8220;strictly residential existence&#8221;.  However, I disagree on a couple of your other points.  First, the Beaches is not a strictly residential area either.  It, just like the Annex, is vibrant , with pedestrian-filled streets and an active night life.  Quite frankly, any environmentally and socially-sustainable neighborhood will have the same characteristics.  We need to jettison the notion that anyone is entitled to a &#8220;strictly residential&#8221; existence.  Second, it is absurd to suggest that the stretch of Bloor Street in the vicinity of the Annex (or any area, for that matter) should be reserved exclusively for students.  The &#8220;secret sauce&#8221; that makes the Annex so great is that the many students in the area mix with folks of all age ranges, from seniors to thirty-somethings with children.
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		<title>By: Neville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why these people who complain about the Annex and the Brunny don&#039;t just pack up and live in Scarborough, North York, Etobicoke, East York, York, or the &#039;Saug? Oh yes, I know the answer: none of you whiners can stand the peoples of color living there, or the shopping options they have in most of these places (like my former neighborhood of Willowdale around Edmonton &amp; Van Horne in North York) so you move into downtown, hoping to make this an oasis of WASPY calm and order like suburbia. 

Well, guess what-you can&#039;t, because &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;this is the nightclub area&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; of Toronto, and &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; a strictly residential one; if you want a strictly residential existence,  move to the Beaches or move to the parts of Toronto that I&#039;ve mentioned. As it is, this area near the Brunny should be for students anyway (and &lt;i&gt;ONLY&lt;/i&gt; students, IMHO.) I suppose it would be great if  the U of T was like York University and it was only students for miles, but unfortunately, it isn&#039;t and so whoever moves there will have to put up with life there (and no, this &lt;i&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; the same as living near trains; that situation can be rectified by making said &lt;i&gt;commuter&lt;/i&gt; trains run on electric power rather than diesel power-this situation should be dealt with by realizing that this is an area near a university and also that it&#039;s in a district that has nightclubs in it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why these people who complain about the Annex and the Brunny don&#8217;t just pack up and live in Scarborough, North York, Etobicoke, East York, York, or the &#8216;Saug? Oh yes, I know the answer: none of you whiners can stand the peoples of color living there, or the shopping options they have in most of these places (like my former neighborhood of Willowdale around Edmonton &amp; Van Horne in North York) so you move into downtown, hoping to make this an oasis of WASPY calm and order like suburbia. </p>
<p>Well, guess what-you can&#8217;t, because <i><b>this is the nightclub area</b></i> of Toronto, and <i>not</i> a strictly residential one; if you want a strictly residential existence,  move to the Beaches or move to the parts of Toronto that I&#8217;ve mentioned. As it is, this area near the Brunny should be for students anyway (and <i>ONLY</i> students, IMHO.) I suppose it would be great if  the U of T was like York University and it was only students for miles, but unfortunately, it isn&#8217;t and so whoever moves there will have to put up with life there (and no, this <i>isn&#8217;t</i> the same as living near trains; that situation can be rectified by making said <i>commuter</i> trains run on electric power rather than diesel power-this situation should be dealt with by realizing that this is an area near a university and also that it&#8217;s in a district that has nightclubs in it.)
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OBSB

I took a bus with a bus full of Waterloo students 20 years ago to just visit the Brunswick.  So it is the same place it has always been.

Your problem is that you see the world as being all about you.  Get over yourself.  Folks like you distroy nieghbours with your negativity. Seriously it seems like you are meant for big city living - move to Woodbridge you have that kind of mentality.  (no offence to Woodbridge)</description>
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<p>I took a bus with a bus full of Waterloo students 20 years ago to just visit the Brunswick.  So it is the same place it has always been.</p>
<p>Your problem is that you see the world as being all about you.  Get over yourself.  Folks like you distroy nieghbours with your negativity. Seriously it seems like you are meant for big city living &#8211; move to Woodbridge you have that kind of mentality.  (no offence to Woodbridge)
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been in Toronto for several years, and the noise from the bar is just that.  Noise that breaks into your world for a moment and disappears.  A small price to pay for all the other conveniences the city has to offer.  If you don&#039;t like it move somewhere away from the bars, but then you will probably find something else to complain about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been in Toronto for several years, and the noise from the bar is just that.  Noise that breaks into your world for a moment and disappears.  A small price to pay for all the other conveniences the city has to offer.  If you don&#8217;t like it move somewhere away from the bars, but then you will probably find something else to complain about.
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright Balance...if you want to whole story, here I go. 
Phone booths that are full of garbage burn like a dream. So we put a shit ton o&#039; garbage in it and up it went. 
I forget the name of the street, but a guy on his front porch started yelling at us cause he could see us from what I can only assume was his house &#039;cause he was on the porch.  
Emboldened by the beer, we yelled back. When he went inside, I assume to call police / fire dept, we ran over to the house and in his DRIVEWAY was a car. Again, we could only assume it was his car, but given the driveway was in front of his house, it wasn&#039;t a stretch. And then the pissing. 
And then we ran...far and fast. 
I hope this clears up some of your confusion. 

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright Balance&#8230;if you want to whole story, here I go.<br />
Phone booths that are full of garbage burn like a dream. So we put a shit ton o&#8217; garbage in it and up it went.<br />
I forget the name of the street, but a guy on his front porch started yelling at us cause he could see us from what I can only assume was his house &#8217;cause he was on the porch.<br />
Emboldened by the beer, we yelled back. When he went inside, I assume to call police / fire dept, we ran over to the house and in his DRIVEWAY was a car. Again, we could only assume it was his car, but given the driveway was in front of his house, it wasn&#8217;t a stretch. And then the pissing.<br />
And then we ran&#8230;far and fast.<br />
I hope this clears up some of your confusion. </p>
<p>Peace.
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