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		<title>By: Reuben</title>
		<link>http://www.thegridto.com/city/places/torontos-most-and-least-diverse-neighbourhoods/#comment-42631</link>
		<dc:creator>Reuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey AR, 
Q: How many Toronto liberals does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A: That&#039;s not funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey AR,<br />
Q: How many Toronto liberals does it take to screw in a lightbulb?<br />
A: That&#8217;s not funny.
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		<title>By: Damien 74</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien 74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, there&#039;s plenty of ghetto downtown too--just start walkin east! Did you know St. Jamestown was once billed as a planned vertical community for young, well educated swinging singletons back in the 60s? Now look at it.

That&#039;s the future of CityPlace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, there&#8217;s plenty of ghetto downtown too&#8211;just start walkin east! Did you know St. Jamestown was once billed as a planned vertical community for young, well educated swinging singletons back in the 60s? Now look at it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the future of CityPlace.
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		<title>By: Not Sure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Sure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calm down. No one called you a &quot;FOB&quot;. It seems your whole comment is to disassociate yourself from others you find embarrassing to you. Do some soul searching, girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calm down. No one called you a &#8220;FOB&#8221;. It seems your whole comment is to disassociate yourself from others you find embarrassing to you. Do some soul searching, girl.
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 04:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Born Downtown Hos Grew up in York: Why should someone who was educated in English, and can only function minimally in Cantonese be grouped together with someone who has, say, completed Grade 5 or 6 in Chinese?  There&#039;s a literacy issue at play here.  I can&#039;t read at all, someone who came at age 12 can (even if they can&#039;t write proper essays in Chinese).  They might lose some of their literacy, but some of what they learned will stay.  In Hong Kong, I am basically illiterate outside of the financial and expat areas, while my parents, who came as adults are not.  So how can you possibly group me with my parents?  And for the record, I did not grow up downtown.  I spent most of my life in North York (mostly in the north central regions (think Bayview Village/Willowdale areas).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Born Downtown Hos Grew up in York: Why should someone who was educated in English, and can only function minimally in Cantonese be grouped together with someone who has, say, completed Grade 5 or 6 in Chinese?  There&#8217;s a literacy issue at play here.  I can&#8217;t read at all, someone who came at age 12 can (even if they can&#8217;t write proper essays in Chinese).  They might lose some of their literacy, but some of what they learned will stay.  In Hong Kong, I am basically illiterate outside of the financial and expat areas, while my parents, who came as adults are not.  So how can you possibly group me with my parents?  And for the record, I did not grow up downtown.  I spent most of my life in North York (mostly in the north central regions (think Bayview Village/Willowdale areas).
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		<title>By: Damien 74</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien 74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet they all share a common denominator: They&#039;re all white!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet they all share a common denominator: They&#8217;re all white!!
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		<title>By: Born Downtown Hos Grew up in York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Born Downtown Hos Grew up in York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You &quot;sound&quot; like you have a lot of weird issues. I guess I&#039;m commenting to shatter the illusion. I have the flu today so I don&#039;t care if this comment sounds stupid. I&#039;m not trying to be mean I&#039;m just trying to make a point.

When I read your post, something in between the lines kept trying to jump out at me.

The exclamation point on the, &quot;regular basis&quot;
... no one said mother tongues are something we think in or use on a regular basis so the comment and the emphasis was not necessary. 

It feels like you are trying to say something else.
It feels like you jump the gun and are quasi prejudiced because you came in with a false preconceived notion that mother tongue is what&#039;s used regularly.
I will probably sound prejudiced my self by pointing out how you come across.

How dare they say Cantonese is my mother tongue (first language), I speak ENGLISH!  -satire

You sound insecure in your Canadian identity and speak as if your Englishness is under attack.

The mother tongue was just used as a measure of cultural diversity, not as a way to discriminate against English Second Languagers.

As for not liking being grouped statistically with immigrants. That&#039;s kind of rude and insensitive. It really doesn&#039;t matter, does it, when they are measuring diversity.
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So what do I see?
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Prejudice and jumping the gun, unnecessary drama, insecurity and rudeness.
A slight air of arrogance again when speaking about how &quot;rich&quot; your neighborhood is.

I think that&#039;s why your post got 4 thumbs down.

I think, not sure, some of the downtown homes near Chinatown are actually worth close to 1 million simply because it&#039;s downtown, as for income levels, I don&#039;t know.
============================================
I commented because when I see someone come across so flawed, It &quot;almost&quot; sounds like a self hater. Self haters usually have very false ideas about a lot of things. Kind of like a feminist extremist *cough* *cough* uoft.

I&#039;m going to be honest, &quot;some&quot; fresh immigrants have a very foreign, often uncool way to socially express themselves and the language barrier and funky accent usually doesn&#039;t make it better. The annoying ones were socially ostracized when I was growing up. Some fresh immigrants adjust totally well, and you wouldn&#039;t really be able to tell them from Canadian Borns.

This is why your dislike of being grouped with them statistically or socially, is almost understandable but rude.

If you had any Pride in who you are, maybe this wouldn&#039;t be an issue. Maybe I have Pride in being a Human being, regardless of what I speak first and second and third and fourth and fifth and where I&#039;m born or where my people come from and that&#039;s why I find your comment so strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You &#8220;sound&#8221; like you have a lot of weird issues. I guess I&#8217;m commenting to shatter the illusion. I have the flu today so I don&#8217;t care if this comment sounds stupid. I&#8217;m not trying to be mean I&#8217;m just trying to make a point.</p>
<p>When I read your post, something in between the lines kept trying to jump out at me.</p>
<p>The exclamation point on the, &#8220;regular basis&#8221;<br />
&#8230; no one said mother tongues are something we think in or use on a regular basis so the comment and the emphasis was not necessary. </p>
<p>It feels like you are trying to say something else.<br />
It feels like you jump the gun and are quasi prejudiced because you came in with a false preconceived notion that mother tongue is what&#8217;s used regularly.<br />
I will probably sound prejudiced my self by pointing out how you come across.</p>
<p>How dare they say Cantonese is my mother tongue (first language), I speak ENGLISH!  -satire</p>
<p>You sound insecure in your Canadian identity and speak as if your Englishness is under attack.</p>
<p>The mother tongue was just used as a measure of cultural diversity, not as a way to discriminate against English Second Languagers.</p>
<p>As for not liking being grouped statistically with immigrants. That&#8217;s kind of rude and insensitive. It really doesn&#8217;t matter, does it, when they are measuring diversity.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
So what do I see?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Prejudice and jumping the gun, unnecessary drama, insecurity and rudeness.<br />
A slight air of arrogance again when speaking about how &#8220;rich&#8221; your neighborhood is.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s why your post got 4 thumbs down.</p>
<p>I think, not sure, some of the downtown homes near Chinatown are actually worth close to 1 million simply because it&#8217;s downtown, as for income levels, I don&#8217;t know.<br />
============================================<br />
I commented because when I see someone come across so flawed, It &#8220;almost&#8221; sounds like a self hater. Self haters usually have very false ideas about a lot of things. Kind of like a feminist extremist *cough* *cough* uoft.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to be honest, &#8220;some&#8221; fresh immigrants have a very foreign, often uncool way to socially express themselves and the language barrier and funky accent usually doesn&#8217;t make it better. The annoying ones were socially ostracized when I was growing up. Some fresh immigrants adjust totally well, and you wouldn&#8217;t really be able to tell them from Canadian Borns.</p>
<p>This is why your dislike of being grouped with them statistically or socially, is almost understandable but rude.</p>
<p>If you had any Pride in who you are, maybe this wouldn&#8217;t be an issue. Maybe I have Pride in being a Human being, regardless of what I speak first and second and third and fourth and fifth and where I&#8217;m born or where my people come from and that&#8217;s why I find your comment so strange.
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		<title>By: PayorCommute</title>
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		<dc:creator>PayorCommute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a 90s garage rocker i resent the use of ageing. i am not ageing. i&#039;m barely out of my 20s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a 90s garage rocker i resent the use of ageing. i am not ageing. i&#8217;m barely out of my 20s
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		<title>By: Smarchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smarchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there were not ethnically &quot;similar&quot; cities, countries, regions etc., then we would not have anything to mix into diversity.  If we succeed in completely diversifying our neighbourhoods, cities, provinces on up, then eventually wont it all just homogonize into the same culture, language etc? Like mixing all the paint colours together?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there were not ethnically &#8220;similar&#8221; cities, countries, regions etc., then we would not have anything to mix into diversity.  If we succeed in completely diversifying our neighbourhoods, cities, provinces on up, then eventually wont it all just homogonize into the same culture, language etc? Like mixing all the paint colours together?
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said in the other post, Bayview Village and other north-central areas aren&#039;t poor.  Homes in the neighbourhood I grew up in are now about $1M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said in the other post, Bayview Village and other north-central areas aren&#8217;t poor.  Homes in the neighbourhood I grew up in are now about $1M.
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
		<link>http://www.thegridto.com/city/places/torontos-most-and-least-diverse-neighbourhoods/#comment-42543</link>
		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m like you, I learnt Greek as a child but no longer speak it and can&#039;t read or write it.  I consider English my mother tongue even though it wasn&#039;t the one I knew first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m like you, I learnt Greek as a child but no longer speak it and can&#8217;t read or write it.  I consider English my mother tongue even though it wasn&#8217;t the one I knew first.
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