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		<title>By: biklovr</title>
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		<dc:creator>biklovr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds a lot like what Community Bicycle Network / CBN on Queen West started some years back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds a lot like what Community Bicycle Network / CBN on Queen West started some years back.
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		<title>By: MeHi</title>
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		<dc:creator>MeHi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 16:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I benefit (profit), because by starting Friends of two wheels I receive back:
Certainty - I am certain I am doing something good to and for the world.
Variety - Each donor is a different person and they enrich me with their unique stories and each bike is different.
Significance - because I feel good about myself and I know it will make a difference in other people&#039;s lives.
Connection - I meet and connect to different people, institutions, etc.
 
My wife benefits, because I am a happier man,
The donors benefit, because they have more space in their homes and they have most of the benefits I have written above.
 
BAM-LEF (Learning Enrichment Foundation) benefits because we give them bikes, that will be used to train community folks and newcomers on how to fix bikes (many of the mechanics now work on BIXI bikes!). The refurbished bikes will be sold at a lower price (benefits the buyer) and the money will be used by the institution to help people in need. Also many bikes will go directly to other community organizations who will give less fortunate people, families (including children) the repaired bicycles for free (benefits the recipient). 
 
People like Kosomo and John that have helped the community with their volunteer  work in exchange for a bike (earn-a-bike (beta) program).
 
So the question should be, who does not benefit (profit) from Friends of 2Wheels.... I would say only those that have bikes and throw them in the garbage or abandon them on the sides of the streets and rivers. 

I agree perhaps the title may have read &quot;upCYCLING Toronto&quot;

MeHi - Friends of 2Wheels. 
P.S. It&#039;s a labour of LOVE!! - priceless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I benefit (profit), because by starting Friends of two wheels I receive back:<br />
Certainty &#8211; I am certain I am doing something good to and for the world.<br />
Variety &#8211; Each donor is a different person and they enrich me with their unique stories and each bike is different.<br />
Significance &#8211; because I feel good about myself and I know it will make a difference in other people&#8217;s lives.<br />
Connection &#8211; I meet and connect to different people, institutions, etc.</p>
<p>My wife benefits, because I am a happier man,<br />
The donors benefit, because they have more space in their homes and they have most of the benefits I have written above.</p>
<p>BAM-LEF (Learning Enrichment Foundation) benefits because we give them bikes, that will be used to train community folks and newcomers on how to fix bikes (many of the mechanics now work on BIXI bikes!). The refurbished bikes will be sold at a lower price (benefits the buyer) and the money will be used by the institution to help people in need. Also many bikes will go directly to other community organizations who will give less fortunate people, families (including children) the repaired bicycles for free (benefits the recipient). </p>
<p>People like Kosomo and John that have helped the community with their volunteer  work in exchange for a bike (earn-a-bike (beta) program).</p>
<p>So the question should be, who does not benefit (profit) from Friends of 2Wheels&#8230;. I would say only those that have bikes and throw them in the garbage or abandon them on the sides of the streets and rivers. </p>
<p>I agree perhaps the title may have read &#8220;upCYCLING Toronto&#8221;</p>
<p>MeHi &#8211; Friends of 2Wheels.<br />
P.S. It&#8217;s a labour of LOVE!! &#8211; priceless&#8230;
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		<title>By: sirslud</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 06:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To cover the cost of paint or chroming, this non-profit organization sells their vintage fix-ups for the amount of money that’s put into the upcycling process (the cost of paint, or new parts).&quot;

This is the &#039;non profit&#039; part some of you folks are missing. (Fun fact: if you don&#039;t charge for labour, then it&#039;s not part of your costs.)

I agree the headline and photos are misleading in the sense that this is how he refurbishes vintage bikes and the photos are clearly not a step by step pictorial of the same bike all the way through. He donates any other bikes he gets not worthy of full detailed refurbishing to this degree to Darren Duke as also mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To cover the cost of paint or chroming, this non-profit organization sells their vintage fix-ups for the amount of money that’s put into the upcycling process (the cost of paint, or new parts).&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the &#8216;non profit&#8217; part some of you folks are missing. (Fun fact: if you don&#8217;t charge for labour, then it&#8217;s not part of your costs.)</p>
<p>I agree the headline and photos are misleading in the sense that this is how he refurbishes vintage bikes and the photos are clearly not a step by step pictorial of the same bike all the way through. He donates any other bikes he gets not worthy of full detailed refurbishing to this degree to Darren Duke as also mentioned.
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		<title>By: EM</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 02:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who benefits from this? What is the non-profit nature of this venture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who benefits from this? What is the non-profit nature of this venture?
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		<title>By: Goldielover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goldielover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 01:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still have my 1970s CCM Grand Prix V.  Bought it new in 1977 and still have original handbook for it.  Was in good condition until about five years ago - now it needs new tires, cables, brake pads and a good chrome cleaning.   Has a generator light set, but not sure if it is still working or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still have my 1970s CCM Grand Prix V.  Bought it new in 1977 and still have original handbook for it.  Was in good condition until about five years ago &#8211; now it needs new tires, cables, brake pads and a good chrome cleaning.   Has a generator light set, but not sure if it is still working or not.
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		<title>By: CM</title>
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		<dc:creator>CM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 23:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, those are definitely different bikes. The red one has either 24&quot; or 26 x 13/8&quot; wheels; the blue bike has 27 x 1 1/4&quot; wheels. The blue one also has longer (and different) cranks, taller/skinnier headtube, completely different fork...

This can be fun work, but I can&#039;t imagine how they can fully recoup the labour and parts costs for overhauls like these. I&#039;ve worked in bike co-ops and have been a mechanic for years -- this is a labour of love for a DIYer, not a quick/cheap/easy way to make your bike awesome. Like another person pointed out -- unless you are getting a professional paint job done, rattlecan paint jobs on bikes look really terrible, really quick, and are almost never worth the effort. Similarly, you simply can&#039;t make money selling used bikes with this kind of labour.

If you&#039;re really looking to save a bike, much simpler and more effective things are:
(cost of parts only. Go to a local bike co-op and someone will teach you how to do this!)
- New chain (especially if it&#039;s a pre-1990s bike that has never been replaced) ~$7-15
- Replace cables, housing, and brake pads: ~$25 (unimagineable improvements will be had!)
- Replace old cruddy grips: ~$5
- get a set of slick fenders, never get a wet ass again: $25
- replace your raggedy old death trap tires with puncture proof awesomeness: $30-40 each
- put a front and rear light on your bike: $15 
- install a rear rack: $20

Now that you&#039;ve built up this relationship with your bike, it&#039;s time to get intimate regrerase the hubs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, those are definitely different bikes. The red one has either 24&#8243; or 26 x 13/8&#8243; wheels; the blue bike has 27 x 1 1/4&#8243; wheels. The blue one also has longer (and different) cranks, taller/skinnier headtube, completely different fork&#8230;</p>
<p>This can be fun work, but I can&#8217;t imagine how they can fully recoup the labour and parts costs for overhauls like these. I&#8217;ve worked in bike co-ops and have been a mechanic for years &#8212; this is a labour of love for a DIYer, not a quick/cheap/easy way to make your bike awesome. Like another person pointed out &#8212; unless you are getting a professional paint job done, rattlecan paint jobs on bikes look really terrible, really quick, and are almost never worth the effort. Similarly, you simply can&#8217;t make money selling used bikes with this kind of labour.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re really looking to save a bike, much simpler and more effective things are:<br />
(cost of parts only. Go to a local bike co-op and someone will teach you how to do this!)<br />
- New chain (especially if it&#8217;s a pre-1990s bike that has never been replaced) ~$7-15<br />
- Replace cables, housing, and brake pads: ~$25 (unimagineable improvements will be had!)<br />
- Replace old cruddy grips: ~$5<br />
- get a set of slick fenders, never get a wet ass again: $25<br />
- replace your raggedy old death trap tires with puncture proof awesomeness: $30-40 each<br />
- put a front and rear light on your bike: $15<br />
- install a rear rack: $20</p>
<p>Now that you&#8217;ve built up this relationship with your bike, it&#8217;s time to get intimate regrerase the hubs!
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blue bike at top is the finished product.  Same frame; different seat etc.</description>
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		<title>By: I_bRAD</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Picture of WHICH finished bike? There are parts for several different bikes scattered throughout the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picture of WHICH finished bike? There are parts for several different bikes scattered throughout the story.
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		<title>By: S.J. White</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.J. White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 17:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A picture of the finished bike would have been great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A picture of the finished bike would have been great.
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		<title>By: I_bRAD</title>
		<link>http://www.thegridto.com/city/local-news/how-to-save-a-bicycle/#comment-44563</link>
		<dc:creator>I_bRAD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 16:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those pedals aren&#039;t difficult to find at all. You can get a set for cheap at the bike joint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those pedals aren&#8217;t difficult to find at all. You can get a set for cheap at the bike joint.
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